McCain is Stretching the Truth about Torture

[Uncleal]

It remains to be proven, but supposidly NBC went to Hanoi, to find out about McCain's stay at the Hanoi Hilton. Apparently they located his old Prison Gaurd, who denies that any torture occured

Story goes that: They also sent a reporter to Chicago, to check up on some of the rumors about Obama's involvement with, William Ayers, ACORN, Reverend Right

Naturally THEY found nothing :mad:

[Toastmaker]

Yeah, you gotta give it to NBC, they really home in on those legitimate, reliable information sources. . .

[MaskRider]

Yep. I can just see it. They wired ahead to let the Viet Namese know they wanted to interview McCains prison guard about torture. The Vietnamese wired back- yep no problem- got 'im right here.

They wired ahead to Chicago told 'em they be wanting information on Obama and Acorn. Chicago wired back- nope, sorry, can't come up with anything. They wired back- Thanks!

:D

[kurt190]

And you can just see the prison guard admitting to torturing people can't you - "Oh yes we tortured hundreds - but not McCain......".

kurt

[Uncleal]

Here we have a video, from that pillar of Honesty and Fair-Play MSNBC

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3032619/#26960409

[Uncleal]

And this is the printed version if you don't like video's

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122127000539031163.html?mod=googlenews_wsj

[Opie]

I *think* I saw the piece in question regarding the Hanoi prison guard last night. The reporter claimed to have interviewed the camp commander, who said (theoretically - his accent was very think and he only said about two sentences anyway) that they were only hard on the prisoners during working hours, and that McCain taught him how to speak English. (I can only imagine how those sessions went - "What is this called? A lamp. What is this called? A rubber hose. What are these called? Leg irons...")

Maybe true, maybe not, but I will offer this up - the prisoner treatment underwent a fundamental change for the better in the early 70s when Nixon altered the American focus of the war. I'm not clear on the exact order things happended, but treatment improved either once the Paris peace talks began, and the North Vietnamese realized that the prisoners would be eventually repatriated (and the truth would get out), or it improved once Nixon started bombing Hanoi again to get them back to the negotiations table. It's certainly possible (or even likely) that the prison guard that they interviewed didn't come on the scene until after treatment improved, in which case he could be telling the truth.

There's plenty of eyewitness testimony for what McCain went through, and I've heard a number of former POWs speak about it in person in the early 80's at the Academy. The details were no different then, and I've heard little embellishment on McCain's part.